What did you expect?

Article:
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Wisconsin Democrats oust delegate over McCain support
By Ryan J. Foley
Associated Press
Article Last Updated: 07/25/2008 02:07:45 PM CDT


MADISON — Wisconsin Democrats have ousted a delegate to their national convention for saying she would vote for Republican Sen. John McCain.

The Wisconsin Democratic Party's administrative committee voted today to strip Debra Bartoshevich of her status as a delegate to the Denver convention.

Bartoshevich was elected as a pledged delegate for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. But after Clinton dropped out of the race, Bartoshevich told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel she would support McCain.

Bartoshevich says she made the comments during an emotional time and she hasn't made up her mind.

But the party says she violated rules requiring delegates to support its nominee.

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My comments:

If you're supporting McCain (or saying you are going to) then you're NOT a democrat. How hard is that concept to grasp? Ms. Bartoshevich gave the party no choice in the matter.

Re: CNN PUMA Article

Article: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/23/preston.puma/index.html

I love how Obama is both too liberal and too conservative.

PUMA, you are a bunch of F-tards. Come to the convention if you want, but remember, other people feel just as strongly as you do so if you come looking for trouble, you're going to find it. And don't think that the other side isn't willing to fight for what we believe in.

Poor things...

Here it is, mid-July, and there are still "pro-Hillary" (and I use that term loosely) people out there on this PUMA-PAC mission to somehow make her president. Using magic I suppose, because the facts speak for themselves:

1. Obama won the numbers. They can twist it anyway they want, but the numbers are there. Please learn math.

2. Hillary is in millions of dollars in debt. Let's say that at the convention, divine intervention occurs and all of a sudden she's in the race. Okkkaaayyy, so she's going to have enough money to pay off her millions in debt and have millions more to run in under 2 months?!? Again, please learn math.

3. Hillary isn't running. What part of that is beyond understanding? Hillary is supporting Obama. These PUMA nuts are pretending that she is still running and not campaigning for Obama. If she's still secretly in the race, this would make her disingenuous at the least, or a flat-out liar. That doesn't sound like someone that would make a very good president.

4. PUMA people make Hillary look bad. PUMA people only talk to each other, mainly because they are a little nutty. They make false claims and repeat all sorts of rumors and lies with no evidence to back anything up. What's worse is that half the time they'll make outrageous claims and don't stop to think about the implications of the statements they are making. Most of which make Hillary look crazy.

5. Pro-Hillary-ism isn't pro-Hillary; It's anti-Obama. If the only thing your PUMA blogs can do is state how evil Obama is, that sends out a message that your candidate (in this case Hillary) doesn't have enough good things about her to get votes.

6. All of this shows Obama's strength. Despite the promises of PUMA people to vote for McCain. Obama is still ahead in all the national polls. So even without those "18 million votes", he's still ahead. So do we really need them?

I think that facts speak for themselves.

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update: Hillary has started to distance herself from these PUMA nuts:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/16/clinton-distances-herself_n_113094.html

Reality Check

I've been reading a log of blogs and have seen that a lot of people are upset with Obama's vote on the FISA bill. I am surprised at how easily people's alliances shift, and think that people need to be reminded that there is no such thing as a perfect candidate, and if you believed that you (Obama voters) were going to agree with everything Obama does, then you’ve put him on a pedestal that no one can live up to.

We have had to put up with a President that has ignored the will of the people for 7 years now, and has refused to even acknowledge criticisms directed to his administration. Obama on the other hand, cast his vote and acknowledging the concern of his supporters, explained why he decided to vote the way that he did.

I myself was initially disappointed, but after reviewing the bill itself and his reasoning, I am comfortable with how he voted. The bill is by no means perfect but is far better than illegal wire taps with no oversight whatsoever.

I think most people are upset about the retroactive immunity, but we need to be realistic about that as well. No civil suit would have been successful because the Republicans would have seen to it that any evidence needed to prove a civil suit would have been classified for national security reasons. Even if civil suits were successful, ultimately we would flip the bill anyways (higher cell phone bills). And this immunity only applies to civil cases not to criminal. If Obama gets in the White House, hearings can be held and if the law was violated, people can be tried in criminal court without Bush being able to pardon those responsible.

That being said, I just think people need to stop and think before jumping across the aisle just because you’re not getting everything that you want. Especially since your alternatives are far worse (Mccain? Seriously?).

Obama 1, McCain/Bush 0

The Iraqi government is insisting that there will be no security deal with the U.S. unless it includes a timetable for withdrawing our troops from their country.

In other words: It's time for you to leave soon.

Ha ha ha ha ha!

Once again Obama was right, and McCain/Bush and all the other conservative nutjobs out there were WRONG!

The Iraqi government wants us out. It's their country, we should respect their rules. How stupid do the Republican's and Obama critics look right now!

Ha ha ha ha ha!

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update: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/07/19/white-house-sends-press-corps-al-maliki-praise-for-obama-plan/